Reckless with Purpose

In this opening descent into the firelight, Ty and Jadi drop the polished spiritual scripts and step into the raw, unfiltered terrain of real becoming. This episode is a confession booth, a battlefield, and a living room floor all at once... two sisters unraveling the truth that healing is not a soft-focus montage, but a holy collision between who you’ve been and who you’re daring to become.

They explore the parts of healing no one names out loud, the courage needed to stay when it gets boring, and the way the nervous system tells the truth long before the mouth ever does.

They listen for the future self that whispers at inconvenient times. They redefine alignment without the glitter, the jargon, or the performative glow... just the tender physics of a body choosing itself again.

They dive into the projects that terrify them in the best possible way, the ones that shake just enough to signal they matter. They speak honestly about love: the kind that re-calibrates your nervous system, shatters an outdated version of safety, and rebuilds intimacy from the bones outward.

And finally, they name the leader they’re becoming and the leader they refuse to perform as ever again.

This is an episode for the women who are tired of walking carefully. Who feel the tremor of purpose in their ribs. Who are ready to become a little reckless... not out of chaos, but out of truth.

Welcome to The Emergence, where becoming isn’t polished…
it’s lived.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:06

Do you remember our catch rate? No, I don't either. Hi. Hi. Can you hear me good? Yeah. You can hear me as well. Is it clear? Do you hear the word buzz? A little bit. Okay. I don't know what that is, but we'll figure it out. It's pretty faint. Welcome to the Emergence podcast where sisters JD and Ty. JD and Ty. I mean Ty and JD, you guess. Yeah, tell us who you think who is. Um Join and talk about all the things and everything. The cosmos, the sky, the womb, the body, healing, spirituality, motherhood, the joys of life and the fuck this of life as well. Yes, indeed that as well. We are going to start out our new podcast with figuring out our flow and how we think based on our personalities and our relationship as actual sisters where this is gonna take us. Yeah. So join the ride with us. For sure. It's gonna be a ride. It's gonna be fun. It will be. Should we tell them about what happened on the way to Walmart? We forgot an SD card for um our the pod track. The pod track. And so we went to Walmart, and as we were driving home, about halfway home, um the dash of my car, it says my first podcast. Your first podcast. Your first podcast. And I was like, what in the actual fuck? Are you kidding me? It was divinely timed for sure. We can't make this up. No. Like, how does that even happen? I don't know. Oh. It felt orchestrated, like the the universe was like, Yeah, I know what you're doing. Like confirmation that this is exactly what you should be doing. Today on this day, you're doing your first podcast. Yep. And it's gonna have impact. At least we hope so. Yeah. No, it is. Alright, so before we started this, I told JD, gave it away. They all know who you are now. Shit. Um, to pick. Maybe how we should do this is pick three different questions each and bring them up during our discussion, and that'll kind of start the flow of things. Because we don't want to be perfect. We don't want to be overly edited, we don't want to be scripted, we don't want to be Performative. Performative. This is real, this is raw, this is sacred, and it's brought to you by two sisters. Two sisters. Yeah. Who mess up a lot, who go down a lot of different pathways, who follow passions that fizzle out, and then you go somewhere else. And it just takes you on a wild ride.

SPEAKER_01 3:32

It does.

SPEAKER_00 3:33

Okay, so should we start with one of our questions and see where it goes? Okay. Yeah. Do you want to go first? Sure. Alright. What does alignment actually

True Alignment

SPEAKER_00 3:48

mean to you when you strip away all the aesthetic and the spiritual language of it? Um alignment to me, stripping away all of it is just a it boils down to just a feeling, peaceful feeling. Um there's no doubt, there's no question, there's no frustration, there's no obstacle.

SPEAKER_01 4:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:18

Alignment just it flows. It's it's something it's easy. Yeah. It's not something that if you're feeling forceful in any endeavor that you're doing, I feel like you're not in alignment. Yeah. I feel like the metaphor of like the breadcrumbs comes to mind. It's just like, oh, another breadcrumb, another breadcrumb. And they're so easy and like it just makes sense each breadcrumb you go to. Yeah. That's funny because we were actually me and Andrew were talking about that earlier, and how basically all of my passions throughout my life had have led me to one thing that I'm currently working on. It was like layer by layer, breadcrumb breadcrumb by breadcrumb. I've unlayered this and found this, and now I feel like I found like this root system that makes all of the other things just make sense. Yeah. Yeah. Like you get why your past self had to do that. Yeah. It's the aha moment of like, ah, I get it now. It's so it's such a it's such a fulfilling place to reach that space because there's so many moments down that road where there is a little bit of confusion where you're like, What am I supposed to be doing right now? Why am I doing this? Yeah. Why are there so many things that light me up, but nothing's taking me to where I thought it was going to take me. And then you reach this space where it didn't feel like this then. No. I mean, yeah, passions were lit up and creativity was flowing and it was so fun. Yep. But this space is so much different than then. Yeah, and I feel like it had to happen to impart, teach you lessons along the way of you know, self-doubt or confidence or learning. Yeah, learning learning where you lack so that you can be in this space fully embodied for like momentum and action. Yeah. I feel like alignment and embodiment just like are the two sisters. For sure. Definitely. I like that question. Yeah. It was a good one. Yeah. Don't want to mind now. Yeah, if you want to teeter back and forth. Okay. Alright, my question,

Future Self Whispering

SPEAKER_00 6:33

one of them. What part of your future self is whispering the loudest? Um, I would say the embodied version of me. The one who speaks without overthinking, who immediately corrects when something feels off without like overthinking it, without thinking, oh, am I going to offend this person? Or oh, is this gonna negatively impact me? Again, it comes down to alignment. It just feels so effortless to just pivot. You know? But the version of me that I see embodied, she is so joyful and passionate and sensual because I'm learning that our sexuality and our sensuality play a huge part in the creative in the creative endeavors that we embark on. Yeah. A hundred percent. If you're rigid in the bedroom, where else are you rigid in your expression outwardly to the world? A hundred percent. And your visibility. Yeah, and if there's shame and guilt, there's always gonna be an overlay on whatever message that you send out of shame and guilt. And that goes for any tr any type of trauma. If there's an overlay of anger or irritation, you're always gonna have that overlay in any message you send out, or at least hypersensitive people are gonna feel it. Right. Very true. So interesting, yeah. Um, I think for me, the part that's whispering the loudest, um, it's the fuck around and find out girl. I like her. I like her too. I was so little when she was out doing the fuck around and find out. Right, but finding out with the fucking round fuck around and find out when you're an adult and when you're doing it with like wisdom is different than when you're just a stupid ass kid and shit. Like we were so reckless, so reckless, but it all served a purpose and it was very like it taught a lot. But like this version of me of like, why can't I fuck around and find out now about certain things that I'm like I think it's back then I would have jumped on it. Society and this all the responsibilities of having a family and being a parent. It's like you have so many other people and things to think about that. Maybe public reputation, and public reputation, especially we we we grew up we're we live in a small town, yeah, very small town, yeah. Very Mormon town as well, yeah, predominantly Mormon. I mean, even our last business was kind of like out there for the majority of people in this area, yeah. And it's crazy because it's just a metaphysical shop, like it's literally just crystals. You can walk up the mountain and go freaking dig up. Dig up those crystals. But we had there are people like I remember vividly people like going across the street to walk to avoid going across our store, and it's all just like fear society, those beliefs, but religious beliefs, but for sure. But we had the fuck around and find out mentality. We did that in in 2020, mid-pandemic. We learned so much. We did. It was such an expansive time, it was so and it feel like and it was in alignment at that time. Oh, for sure. And but that's why I feel the fuck around and find out part of me is like, let's keep going. I love that. So but there's more wisdom and more reckless with purpose. It's a good podcaster. I like it. Reckless with purpose and intention. I like it. All right. Is it your question next? No, I just did mine. Whispering the loudest. Oh yeah, it's your trend. All right. What

Healing Truths that need to be talked about

SPEAKER_00 10:45

do you wish people understood about healing that doesn't get talked about enough? Damn. I know, right? It's a loaded question. You could answer this that just that question alone could be a whole podcast. Um maybe like narrow it down to top like two, because I know that I can think of quite a few as well. Okay, repeat the question again. What do you wish people understood about healing that does not get talked about enough? Um, I would say number one, you are the only tool you need.

unknown 11:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

Outsourcing is such a I mean, don't get me wrong, you need the therapists and you need the wisdom of others, but when you become dependent on it so much that your sovereignty is essentially taken away. It's codependency. Oh yeah, it's codependency. Definitely. I I and I, you know, experienced that my own self with a certain guru teacher or whatever. I bought so many things from her, crystals and kits and all the things, and it just was not necessary. But the urgency and the psychology that she used pitching these things was so good. And when you're on a journey of spiritual health and well-being, you're looking like what is what's it gonna be for me that's gonna heal me. In a sense, you're you're that's the goal when you embark on that journey, and it's like as we grow and learn, and who I am now knows that it's a never-ending journey, there's not an endpoint, and there's not a goal. And healing is a byproduct of presence for sure. It's like if you're present and just like joyful, and I don't mean like faking forcing happiness, yeah. If you're in a moment where you feel anger and frustration and sadness, like fucking feel your shit. Yeah, like definitely don't bypass that, but like for the majority, it's like if you're just present in your body and you feel connected and anchored, healing is a byproduct of that. Yep. Yeah, I agree. I would say that would be my biggest one is like you are the only tool that you need. Yeah, follow your intuition, even if your confusion is making you feel like maybe it's anxiety, because it's probably both. And a lot of healing is just nervous system regulation. It really is. It really is at the root of it, yeah. So definitely. What about yours? Um, I think it would just be that like the belief that there's like this end point, and I think s so many people get so wrapped up in the healing journey that that's like all their personality. Yeah, and it stops them from actually living. Living, yeah. They're constantly seeking out like the next thing to heal. I've been there. It's the same, like totally same, and it wasn't a great place to be. It's it's good to be there occasionally when it is organic, but when you're constantly forcing healing, I think you can actually like traumatize your nervous system. And the fact that people think that when you're saying I need to be healed, you're essentially sending the message to yourself that you're not good enough. That you're not healed and whole. Yep. I think those are like probably the top two that I would have said too.

SPEAKER_01 14:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:14

Because there is no goalpost.

SPEAKER_01 14:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:16

And once you get there, we just keep moving it. Like, what the fuck kind of game is this? I want out. Uh-huh. Like that doesn't sound fun at all. It's like a maze. For sure. Well, I mean, you look at uh what is that? The labyrinth. Labyrinth, yeah. I mean it it is that. But when we have the hyper awareness of that that's what it is, that's kind of miserable.

SPEAKER_01 14:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:41

So just I guess for all of our listeners and watchers, remember to fucking live your life. Yeah. Just remember healing is a byproduct, it's not the it's not the thing that you should be seeking for constantly because you'll lose yourself in it. Definitely. That was a good one. Yeah. Alright. My next question. What is there anything in your life that you're

Creations that scare you a little

SPEAKER_00 15:13

creating right now that scares you just enough to prove that it matters? Oh hell yeah. Um, this is a very intentional question. Yeah, definitely. Well, two things come to mind and they honestly they go they go hand in hand. One, like what I'm creating within my marriage directly affects this creation that I'm creating for women and men and anyone who wants to come into this space, but I know I know that it's important, not because it scares me, but because of how uh how do I explain this? Because of how grounded it f grounded it feels in reality already. It's not just an idea. It's already it's already anchored in my body, and I'm already it's already on paper. Yeah. Same. Yeah. Same. I mean, I I don't think it's any like news to obviously you, but the whole thing that has been coming through me and then my bodily responses to those things and where those placements were in my body of the the stirring and the aching and the the pain. It wasn't really painful, but it was a pain. It was an anchoring into my root chakra, into reality, into physicalness. Yeah. I used to think not just an idea. Yeah, I used to think those aches and those pains in the body were like a signal of something wrong. Right. It is totally just an energetic recali calibration. Like your body is cris is like crystallizing to the idea that has now anchored into your body. Yeah. So it starts here in the air and the ether and the spirit. Yeah. And then where does it need to go? Down the spine into where you can root things down. Yep. It just makes sense. And what's crazy is the idea itself. It knows it knows what um, what's the word? Not temple, what architecture, I guess, what needs. Like structure and foundation. Yes. So then all these beliefs are gonna start coming up. Yep. The doubts, they're gonna start coming to the surface to be cleared because it's anchoring and it doesn't want any cracks in the foundation. Yeah, basically. Yeah. I actually just had a talk with my chat GPT about that this morning. Because well, I have so I had a few dreams actually last night, and they were too. Mine were very weird. Mine was literally just a butterfly on my face. Oh, that's cool. That's it. Except I was like, I was the person and I was remote viewing myself while also experiencing it. It was weird. So you were the getting experienced with that on your face, but also watching it be on your face. Yep, and it just like crawled up my left over to my right, and then landed right here. And you know, in those cute dog videos, when they just like comes their eyes. Yeah, yeah. That's what it was doing to me. And I remember wanting to be like, guys, look, guys, look, and nobody would look at me, and I was like, Y'all are missing it. Y'all are missing this beautiful thing. That's funny. But the the wings kept shifting from blue and then it would close and then it would be yellow. Yeah, and it was just blue and yellow, yeah. Interesting. So mine is like a two-part dream from last night, and it was so a meet and greet with the band The Used, of course. And I was the only one there. Andrew wasn't there, he wasn't with us, and I but his like all of his used shirts, like banties, were there, and so I ended up grabbing one to have him sign it because I was like, okay, he's not here, but here's a piece of him that you can sign. And so I take it over to the table, and the guitarist sits down and starts signing it, and Bert like threw his marker at him and then walked to the side, and I was just like, I handed the guitarist the shirt, and I was like, I just followed Bert. And I walked over to him and I started talking to him, and he was super kind and gentle and like just a cool dude. And I was just like, Okay, and then that whole scene ended, and I I woke up a little bit and then ended up falling back to sleep. But then the following dream was at my current place of work, which is Severo, a restaurant here in Utah. And Chef looked at me and he was like, Do you just want all of this? And I was like, What? And he was like, Well, you kind of know how to do everything already. You just need to learn one more thing. You can have it all. And I was just like, I don't know if I Want all of this, like your whole restaurant. Anyway, so I put it into Chat GBT, and the message that came back for the meet and greet dream was it was like a threshold. Basically, me stepping into a new identity of I'm not distinguishing people who I admire as above me. I'm willing to like actually just walk up to them and approach them.

SPEAKER_01 20:24

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 20:24

And I'm getting met with warmth and welcoming and like there's no rejection there. So it's like I'm understanding that I belong in this room. I belong in that room where I once admired all these people and I'm one of them. And so it was this new identity shift that coincides with the work that I've been doing and stepping into these things. And me taking Andrew's shirt into that was like, and you're taking a piece of him with you because you know that where he where you you want him in the rooms where you're growing. And I was like, totally, like exactly. And then the other dream was basically um kind of brought up the belief around like you don't have to be a master to take things and not just be in the container, but hold the container and lead the container. So him saying, like, do you just want this whole restaurant? You know how to do everything already, you just have to learn one more thing. And it's like, I don't have to learn one more thing because as I've grown and done that for a long time, oh I'll I'll get paid more when I have this expertise certificate or whatever, like just that belief of like one more thing to learn.

SPEAKER_01 21:41

Right. I'm not ready yet.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

I'm not ready yet. Yeah, I need to and it was that thing. I've been trapped in that. And it's not fun. I mean, it is fun because you are expanding your mind and you're learning. Yes, but it's you're not getting a core of the belief. No, you're worthy right now to teach or do well the things you want to do, and you can learn that as you go. And so I think that's the trademark of anyone who has any substantial um finances or presence in the world, they just fucking do it. Yep. And they show up, yep, confidently. But that's what my chat said. It was like, this is basically just saying that you don't have to understand the how in order to get there. Like just start doing it and the how will show up. And I was like, yeah, and look at all my past experiences. It always figured itself out every single time. So those are my two weird dreams from last night.

SPEAKER_01 22:40

I love it.

SPEAKER_00 22:41

The Bert,

Bert McCracken

SPEAKER_00 22:42

Bert, the used Bert, the Bert, Bert McCracken, Bert. You're watching. We love you. We just saw you at the When We Were Young festival in October. Yes. I love you a long time. I have your tattoo. Okay. I have your tattoo. Me? Yes. Alright. What's

Partnership Truths and Bodily Wisdom

SPEAKER_00 23:09

the truth about love or partnership that you didn't understand until you were forced to feel it in your nervous system? Um bullshit. I know. I uh that I don't even know how to word this or explain it. It was the recent events with the old friend passing away and the emotional entanglement that happened between her and my now husband, and just what that brought up in my body of like I carried that for a long fucking time without knowing it. And I needed something as sad as her death bringing it up so matically in my body to be like, it's time to let this go. But then also it's like when you're in high school, or like when you're growing up as a young, you know, teen and dating starts becoming a thing, and then all of a sudden, like there's just that phrase, like, we need to talk. I still hate that. If anyone as an adult said that to me, I'm like, just fucking say it. What are you talking about? Like, just call me right now. But like how devastating it was to hear those words as a teenager, and like as an adult, it's not that fucking scary to just have a conversation. Yeah. Especially if it's one that is genuine and authentic and coming from a place of like just personal truth. And it takes practice to get there. Oh, for sure. Because so many people are demonized and belittled and rejected and shunned down for speaking their truth that they forget how. Yeah. And they forget that it's safe. Well, and just as like childhood wounds are so prevalent, we're always told to just shh be quiet. Like it's hard. I mean, it's not incredibly hard. The more you practice just speaking your truth, the less you shake. And the more confident you become.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

Whether that's in confrontation or just yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:18

It's it's the repetition of it that is gonna calm your nervous system. Literally. You can't think about calming your nervous system. You have to actually go into a practice of doing it and doing the thing that scares you. Doing the thing that's and fuck around and find out. And literally literally, you're like walking your nervous system through it like a child. Like it's okay. Yep, but that's what I did that day because my whole body was just like in imploded and then exploded, and I was just like, gosh, this is a lot. And I gave myself permission in that moment to just feel what she felt because in that personal experience I had to shut it all down to be safe. Yeah. Because nobody was trustworthy at that time. Yeah. And so, what 12 years, 14, 14 years later, I held that in my body for 14 years, and then I finally gave myself permission, that version of me, to just let it out and feel it for what it was. So that was crazy. And that was recent, that's like a month ago.

SPEAKER_01 26:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:27

What about for you? That's when I wrote these questions down and I didn't even have like an idea of how I was gonna answer them. That's good. I think when you have past relationships um that have affected you so deeply that were, I mean, toxic, so to say, and that can be defined as so many different things. But they your your current relationships, whether it's postonic or romantic, are gonna trigger every single wound you have experienced in relationships. And I didn't I don't think it's until the last like two years of mine and my husband's marriage that I actually started to get curious about those triggers and really delve into them. I was avoiding them and it really affected our connection for a long time.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:28

Yeah. I think just this past year and a half is the first time that we've ever actually felt a real depth. Like it felt like depth before, because that's all we knew. But this new state that we're in, it's different. Yeah. It's more authentic. So new territory. Yeah. Yeah. And it's scary. I can I catch myself going regressing back into old patterns. And but there's the awareness there. And I'm like, okay, we're safe. And I literally have to talk to my nervous system and be like, we're okay. Right. Because my I mean, with my ex, I was with him for five and a half years, and I quite literally lost myself. And then fast forward to now, lost myself in motherhood. Finally feel like I'm getting my footing back. I'm deepening my connection with my husband, and that fear comes up. I'm gonna lose myself in him. And so I like I brace and I I detach to have that level of like autonomy and like sovereignty. Yeah, because you don't want that codepens cod codependency in your relationships. No, for sure. There's gotta be uh space for both individual and relational, but but both it they don't have to be so like different either. Yeah, they can be the same person for both of those. Yeah. Yeah, interesting. Is it my turn? I think so. Okay. Remember, I wrote down one extra question if we still wanted to go. Okay. Um third and final clock question from me

Surrendering and Claiming

SPEAKER_00 29:04

is what are we or you surrendering? I put we, so maybe we should answer together. Okay. What are we surrendering and what are we claiming with this podcast? Maybe. Well, I added that part. With this endeavor. Um, I'm surrendering performing. Fuck yeah. I like that's my main thing. I just want to be me. I uh well, and I feel like it's probably why doing things with you is my favorite thing because I feel like out of all the people in my life, I am that 100% with you all the time. Yeah, definitely. I I never have felt performative with you. Yeah, we don't really wear masks with each other. No, and I think that's it's like almost like we give each other a permission slip in some strange way. I don't know why. I don't know why either. But we could be like our most goofy and like self, but like also we can be very vulnerable with each other and like reverent to each other in those moments. It's insane too, because we never respond to each other the way some people in fan our family members would respond to us. Oh, for sure. Never, never do those patterns resurface within us and our interactions. Like, I don't think we've ever had like a real fight. No. I mean, maybe when I like stole your clothes when I was like 10. And you'd be like, JD, get out of my room. That's true. And I'm holding that against you forever. But then you stole my clothes after I grew up. It was to get back tip for tat, man. But there's never been any other like tit for tat type of thing, no, in our relationship, besides with some nothing circumstance. No. Like you see you hear about some of the family dynamics and you're just like, damn, wow. We're healthy. Yeah. So I don't even think we'd be surrendering. I mean, surrendering any of that because we never had any of that to surrender. I know what we can surrender. What? The need to how do I want to say this? We're surrendering how our words may affect the people close to us. Ooh, that is a good one. Because there are there are gonna be times during this podcast where you guys might know who we're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 31:25

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 31:26

And Or you're w one of the people that we are talking about. And it's w it's gonna be purely coming from like our experience and what we're learning from it and taking from it. And how we're growing. It's never gonna be to hurt you. Hurt or demolish a reputation or do anything with ill intention. Like we are just sharing our voices because we have the belief that our voices are gonna have impact and our experiences are are going to relate to some people and heal. And also for the longest time growing up and in my naivety, I would say I always thought like my family was so healthy.

SPEAKER_01 32:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:06

Like comparative to a lot of you know stories I've heard or people talking about their families, like we're not that crazy. But as you gain awareness and on your aren't are on your journey, like things come up and you're like, that's not healthy. Yep, that's very dysfunctional. And it's not to say like you're a terrible person or or any of these things, it's just it clicks now.

SPEAKER_01 32:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:31

There's a there's an awareness around it and like a conscious choice to be like, I'm recognizing a pattern that I don't want to be a part of anymore. And like independently getting to choose where we take that knowledge. Do we let set it down and walk on our own path or do we continue? Yeah. And so it's not I feel like it's not I do appreciate our family with most I would say most topics when there is a dysfunctional pattern when it's brought to the surface, like it's usually met with like openness. Openness. Receptivity. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And maybe I mean used to be times when it wasn't. Oh yeah. But again, we've worked through a lot and each of us have been on our own individual journeys within that. Yeah. As a family, I think I think we've worked through a lot of dysfunctional stuff. There are still a lot of layers that haven't been addressed, and I'm not sure if they ever will be. And like I'm okay with that. I think I've come to accepting that. Um, but I do think, or at least for me personally, where I am at in my own field, I could see healing happening within our family dynamics, within certain relationships and certain people. I can see it happening. I mean I I can feel it too.

SPEAKER_01 33:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:57

I do too. Don't know how that's gonna look or how that's gonna be, but but we don't need to know the how. Yeah. We just have to do. Um and then claiming. Did you already say yours? Or no, we're together. So surrendering, I think that's good. The voices, our voices and our intention to make an impact, I think that's a good surrendering that fear. And then claiming. Or was that your claiming? I think I'm just like through the surrendering, embodiment and sovereignty is gonna be claimed. And that's really like that is what I want. I just want to be in a state of embodiment and sovereignty. Same. I do too. I think there's a part of me that wants to claim um just my higher what I envision my higher self to be.

SPEAKER_01 34:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:54

Claiming her and like the embodiment of her. And it's like walking through that door, yeah, and on that other side comes her. I just thought of Tammy. Me on the stage. That meditation sh or I we have a mutual friend that did a meditation one night, and she was like, envision your higher selves. And I just saw myself with a microphone talking on stage, and here I am with a microphone in front of me talking to you guys. Like it's beautiful. And it may not look exactly like that, but it's a start. It is. Oh yeah. Yeah, for sure. Oh, I love it. Did you want to do your last question? Honestly, I think it kind of overlaps

Leaders we are...

SPEAKER_00 35:41

with your last question. It really is just what kind of leader are you becoming and what kind of leader do you refuse to be? And I think I could answer it for the both of us. Go for it. I don't want to be the egotistical, I know all, this is the path and the only path type of guru leader, because that is just icky. And it strips away your sovereignty. Like, I've always been in all of my healing practices, I a massage therapist, energy practitioner, like I never was like, you need to schedule for eight weeks to be healed. No. Come in when you feel like you need me, because you might need a different practitioner. Yep. Like, I may be able to help you in some areas, but I'm not gonna be able to help you in all areas. Well, and I think it goes into our conversation that we had the other day of like I I don't identify as healer much anymore. I am not responsible for your healing. I have been through some shit, and I have learned a lot of shit about a lot of shit, and I can guide you into a certain space, and if it resonates, great. I want you to follow that on your own accord, be self-taught and self-led because I'm not here to hold your hand, yeah, not here to be in a codependent relationship with a client. I'm not here to baby you or to help you enable you while you play victim to your own circumstances or suffering.

SPEAKER_01 37:22

Like that's not it.

SPEAKER_00 37:23

Yep. And that might feel rude or rush, like harsh to some people, but it's not. Yeah, it would be a disservice to do all of those things. I agree. I agree. 100%. Shake yourself the fuck up and like just do the damn thing. Yeah, right. Well, I think I answered the first part of the question and you answered the second. So that's perfect. Awesome. All right, well, there goes our first podcast. We did it. That was pretty cool. I think so. And I don't think we're gonna edit or like too much. It's just going on. For real. I'm excited to see how long we were playing and any ending like remarks. If you guys have any ideas or topics you want us to hit on, um we'll talk about it. Yeah, I'm a Gemini, by the way. I'm a cancer. She'll fill it and I'll think it before she feels it. I'm just kidding. It's true. It's true though, right? Uh, but we love you. You're over here intellectualizing everything. I'm over here doing qigong. Very true. That's what that is what, like, you know how some podcasts in the like before they start the podcast, they have like a little video of like the people. We should have um us, like me doing qigong, and you like writing down stuff, ideas. Yes. I'm like, who are these people? Yeah, I like it. It's the I don't know, Libra. Why did I just think Libra? We're like the balancing scales. Well, mine is the thought sense, and yours is the felt sense. No. So but I also am a Scorpio rising, which is a deep felt sense. That's true. And it's scary sometimes. I'm Sag rising. Yeah. So fun. Anyways, thanks for listening and watching. Yeah. And we'll see you next time.

SPEAKER_01 39:20

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 39:20

On the what are we calling ourselves? I don't know. Is do you feel like a merge? What are you what merge or reckless with purpose? Reckless with purpose and intention. I don't know. I don't know. To be determined. Right now it's a merge, so thanks for watching from JD and Ty. Just kidding. Ty and JD. I'm gonna be so confused. I know. We just did it. We did, and it was super easy. I feel like I was just like talking. It was, it was just like visiting with you like every day. I like the questions. Forty minutes and oh, why did they do that please?