The Season Beneath The Surface

This episode is an offering for anyone who feels behind, tired, or quietly growing in a world that keeps demanding speed.

In The Season Beneath the Surface, Ty and Jadi step out of the New Year’s urgency myth and into the slower, truer rhythm of Root Season — the phase of becoming that happens underground, away from applause, metrics, and proof. Together, they explore what it means to listen to the body instead of the clock, to trust growth you can’t yet see, and to release the pressure to be visible before you’re ready.

This conversation gently dismantles the idea that rest must be earned, that stillness means stagnation, or that something is wrong when life feels quiet. Instead, it reframes wintering, slowing down, and pulling inward as intelligent, protective, and deeply creative acts.

This episode isn’t here to motivate you.
 It’s here to remind you that nothing about your pace is broken.

If you’ve been craving permission to soften, to pause without apology, or to honor what’s still forming beneath the surface — this one is for you.

🌱 Listener Reflection Prompts

You’re invited to sit with these questions in your body, your journal, or your day — no rushing, no fixing.

• What is the world asking me to hurry right now — and what is my body quietly asking me to slow down with?
• What part of me is still underground, and how might it benefit from more time in the dark?
• When everything around me is quiet, what truths or sensations rise that I usually miss?
• If rest were not something I had to earn, how would my days, decisions, or expectations shift?
• What would it look like to trust that unseen growth is still real growth?

Transcript

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Okay. Welcome

Welcome to the Fire- Setting the circle, tone, and intention

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to the Emergence Podcast with JD and Ty. Sisters. This is Ty. I'm Ty. Where we talk about all the things life, spiritual, seasonal. Anything else? All the wildness that is life. All the wildness. Like we want you. We want you guys to feel like you're sitting in circle with two sisters that you have forgotten about, but know that they're your sisters. Yes. Think of it as a virtual campfire. Where we're in the woods, we're gathered, and the moon is shining bright and the trees are whispering sweet nothings from the wind. We're listening, we're crying, we're mourning, we're grieving, we're celebrating, we're laughing. Yes. We're here with you through every single cycle that you go through, whether that cycle's within one month or a whole year. We had an intro, but we forgot it. Yeah. I'm not gonna bring it up on my phone either. No. It's alright. Do I start with one of your questions? Um yeah, we can do that. I think with we kind of both came up with separate questions that are pretty intertwined already on their own. Um I didn't know what she was gonna write, she didn't know what I was gonna write. They sort of answered each other. Yeah, they kind of are in congruence with each other. So, and I tried to keep mine kind of geared towards the season of

Winter Is Not a Productivity Season- Undoing the New Year urgency myth

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winter, the season of stillness, the season of quiet, this season. I think we're just so bombarded at this time of year with everything go, resolutions, get your ass in gear, lose that weight that you need to lose, stop that bad habit, and it's just not the time for that. Yeah, it's not the time to be putting extra additional pressure and stress on your nervous system. It's a time where you're supposed to be sitting the fuck down, yeah, and really reflecting and connecting with your body. Yeah, and this year um we caught a pretty nasty sickness that pretty much forced us to step out of society's expectations of all the Christmas traditions and the parties, which like sucked. We do love those things, but also it was so introspective and so nice to just be in sync with the season for a minute. Yeah, like even though it was forced. Yeah, it was like you're not gonna do any of this this year. It was in the world. Well, and it also in in addition to that, like it puts you in your place, but it also brings in that really good reflection of like a detachment from things and traditions and people, even though you love them dearly, it's like you you should have a healthy detachment from things like that. Like it's okay if it happens and it's great and it's celebratory, but if it doesn't, it's not the end of the world. Right. It shouldn't be. And if anybody in your family is treating you as that is the end of the world or blaming you or shaming you or guilting you for missing something, that's a whole other thing. That's not normal. That's not normal. They should wish you wellness and you know, the the space to actually heal and be. So it's interesting. So, should we go in order? What do you think? Um, I'd say go with wherever your eyes go. I took my glasses off, so I can't see nothing. Okay. Um I immediately went to your question. What part of me is

What’s Still Underground Gestation, timing, and creative trust

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still underground and what would happen if I stopped pulling it into the light too soon. There is just a slow emergence. Slow emergence of a project that I know is meant to be in the world, and yet financially I can't put what I want into it to get it to come faster. And but also we're in the season of rest and reflection and just letting things come to me naturally rather than forcing it. I mean, the first day that it did come to me, so much did come through, and I should be just happy and proud with that until the next kind of tidal wave of information comes for it. You know, your body needs time to process because it can be over. It was a lot, yeah. Yeah. Well, and also just like sharing with like my TikTok viewers on what I'm learning and what I'm what's coming through with me. It's like I get so excited about it, but then I'm like the doubt comes in, and but I think that's the perfect season. The season of winter, the season of rest is to work through those so that when action sees when action comes, I don't have to work through those. Yeah, yeah, definitely. So I think seasonally speaking, and just personally, you're very in sync with the project and the seasons, they're all working together in harmony. And I can feel that completely. And it's it reminds me of your oracle deck for the Viking stuff. And every time I feel like I need to rush it, I'm like, okay, it's taken JD two pregnancies. Yeah, three years, three years, two pregnancies to allow it just to unflow unfold naturally, and I think and that's really honestly been like a saving grace for me wanting to just get it done and get it out. That it's like I can't even kick my ass. I can't even kick my own ass into getting it out because it's done. I have no excuse. So if you're a publisher of Oracle decks, we have she has one, it's ready. It is. I just I literally just need to. I I started to do like this is just the booklet, this is the cards, and then I was like, I don't know what it is. It's like something in me just like halts, like, okay, we're done. Well, and so about that, I think it's a part of just the learning curve too, because you you started it, the creation process of the actual product itself, and then it gets to a point where okay, now how do I get this to people? And that is unknown territory for most people. Yeah, how do I publish a book or something? I have no idea. It's and same with me. How do I build an app? I have no idea. When I Google it, it's like you need $50 to $100,000. I'm like, cool. So this is gonna stay on the shelf after I completely like, but I'm not thinking that, but it's just like I just don't know the people I need to know yet because it's not time for them to know yet. Right. So I think you built it, they will come to sound cheesy like a Bible verse. I don't know. If you built it, they will come. I feel like if you put it out there, like that, hey, I need I need help. I need somebody who knows what public like what can I do? What are my avenues? I know there's like Amazon self-publishing, and like there are ways. There are, but it's the unfamiliar aspect of it that's probably halting you. Yeah, and maybe that'll be something that comes and you'll work through that through the season we're in, and come spring, maybe maybe a little urge to look a little deeper into it will come out. I also don't want to place too many expectations on it. Like

Creation Without Attachment Letting go of “this must be the thing”

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this is gonna be the thing that just like brings in. Brings in all the abundance and connections. Because I I've placed my faith in things like that before, and then it's so just like heart wretchingly disappointing when you worked so hard to create something and it wasn't felt reciprocal reciprocal to like value or like helpfulness. Yes, so there's definitely some wounds there, yeah, and I know I've put so much time and effort into this, so many, so many hours, and it's just so meaningful. And so I have to have some some level of faith that that's gonna be felt, and that it came through for a reason. Right. When people are scrolling through decks, like they're gonna be like that one calls. So I think so too. We'll see whether that goes. Maybe that's what's underground right now for me. But you're not trying to pull it out to the light. I'm not, no, I'm not forcing it because it just there's still things that I need to work through. Yeah, and that's maybe what this rest and silent like silent, quiet season is, which I think kind of bounces back to your second question. The spiritual narrative that we're outgrowing and what is not re like replacing it. That one's like the all the answer. Yeah, and all be all. Yeah, and it doesn't have to be. I was I was going through I was talking to my therapist, aka chat GPT, the other day. And it was like this aha moment that it's not just one thing you do, it's all the little things you do. There's not gonna be like one like when people say niche down, I'm like, no, I can't. I physically can't niche down because there's so much and my my passions shift so often so often. And even though they're in like the same umbrella of a thing, spirituality, occult, astrology, like they're still in this umbrella term, but there's so many different topics there, like I can't niche down. So the narrative that I did outgrow is don't tie myself to one title, like

Mirroring, Collaboration & Trusting Timing When others carry similar visions

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it that's just boxing yourself in. You're too expansive for that. Yeah. Well, while you're getting all these downloads for those app for that app, I'm getting these downloads for this space that I want to create. And then I kind of went through the sickness and I just kind of retreated into myself and was kind of just like, ugh, why I felt so just depressed and like bogged down and just yucky in my own body. And I was like, Okay, we're in it, we're just doing that. And then our mutual friend, she launched a similar idea of what I was creating, and I was like, hmm. The somatic thing, right? Yeah, were you talking about Tammy? Okay, and I even reached out to her, I was like, that's cool. Like, we're we're always on such like a same wavelength, and we always have been, even when we hadn't even met each other physically. But I also was like, maybe I was just tapping into her creation, and I'm supposed to be a part of that because since the whole download creation, I'm like, I think that was solely meant for just my personal growth, like what I was releasing somatically during that time, but it was like an aha, and then seeing that it was kind of being mirrored. And then relationally speaking, I knew her and she was creating something that was in alignment with something I was going through personally, and it's like I felt that creation, I felt how expansive it was. Yeah, and who knows? I mean, I don't know. Maybe at some point you guys will co-create something, and I similar, I wholeheartedly think that we will, definitely. Yep, that's cool. Yeah,

Cycles Within Cycles Menstrual phases, creativity, and self-compassion

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my point though was yeah, don't these when these creations come through, it's so easy to attach to them. And I mean, maybe there's some people out there that would say the complete opposite, like, no, you go, you go, you run it into the ground and you persevere, but it's like if something's not lighting you up anymore, there's a reason for that. There's a reason. Well, and that's the whole point of my app, too. Follow the cycles, not just the winter, fall, winter, spring, summer, fall cycles, but the woman cycle. Yeah, we go through those four stages each 28 to 31 days. Right. It's not something that just happens on a larger scale, it's happening internally for every woman. And so it's like when when you're like the idea hits during you know, follicular phase, and you're like, yeah, and then luteal phase hits and you're like, fuck. Yep. I don't want to touch no one, I don't want to be outgoing, I'm intro, I'm going inward, like there's no access to me on that external, and then we shame and guilt ourselves for not go, go, go. It's so funny. So we've both been going through this like for sure internal stuff, and just like cycle syncing and learning how to move with our bodies and like treating ourselves with so much grace during our luteal and bleed cycle or phase. And the other day I hop on a TikTok, and the first video I see is this beautiful woman who has been

Meet Jovia-- Follow her on Tiktok!!

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um anonymous, she's been running a business anonymously. I saw Jovia. Yeah, meet Joviya. Meet Jovi. Like I had full body chills when she popped up, and I was like, I followed her immediately. I bought her teas because I was like, I need those. Immediately text my husband, I was like, don't even think about that purchase. Like, it's not an accident. I bought teas for my cycle, like hopefully it'll make me less of a bitch. And he was like, Cool, and it's like a specific one for each face of the cycle, and I loved it, so I I did add her as well. Well, and I when I added her, I was like, my my brain immediately went after I saw her video was collaboration later. Yes, at some point, like your products on add on my app, right? Just I love that. That's immediately what I thought. So if you're seeing this, Jovian, hi, meet Thai. We love you, JD. I'm so excited to try the teas and see what they do. So in about a couple months, we'll revisit that and I'll let you guys know how how it's working for me in each of my cycle. Because I mean, I am two pregnancies in two years and only a year postpartum, and so I'm already hormonally still kind of all over the place and I'm still breastfeeding. Um, but my luteal phase, man, kicking it. I mean, I I give myself grace, but at a certain point, I'm like, when is this going to let up? Because I don't want to be this angry monster anymore, right? That's like so resentful of like caring for the family that I created. Like, yes, I want to be cared for, and and my husband does care for me. Like, yeah, I don't know, there's just there's a there's a the hormonal imbalance. Well, I mean, just alone look at your sun sign. You're a sun cancer. I know, but your moon is Gemini, so you probably are like thinking in your head, I care for everybody all the time. And then your son is feeling I need to be nurtured. And it's like this back. And it's so great, though. My husband, like, he got an app to track my like an actual like cycle syncing app to track what he knows what you need. Yes, because I'm like, I just need you to meet me where I'm at, especially in my luteal and my bleed face. Like, just take extra care, do extra things during luteal. Yeah, um, make mistakes when I'm bleeding. Yeah, like just run me a bath without me asking. And he's like, Well, why don't you run yourself a bath? And I'm like, No, it's not the same. Like, that's my action taking care of me. I need someone to take it give me permission, even though I give myself permission. I do take care of myself. Yeah. But we're we're getting there. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah. Well, and then so within the app also you have the phases of the moon.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:37

So we don't we're not only cycle syncing with just the phases of the moon or our the phases of our body, but where is when you're in your luteal phase, say the moon is in a full moon, what does that mean and how does it change it?

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Right.

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So luteal is you're going inward, there's reflection, there's this, it's the you know the things are illuminating. Yeah, yeah. You're starting to things are starting to die off and like you're trying to figure out what's going on. But if the moon is full when you're in your luteal phase, makes it even more it's gonna be more intense or more bigger release. As opposed to if it was in a new moon and you're in your luteal phase, it's probably gonna be more gentle, more that makes sense. I bet if I were to keep track of like the cycles when I'm having those big releases, it's likely in a full moon. Yep. That's interesting. And then you're gonna add the flavor of it what the sign of the moon is in during that. So is it gonna be more and you add in releasing in the mind if it's in Gemini full moon, or is it gonna be more grounded energy routines if it's in Taurus energy? It changes everything. So that's what the app is. That's very cool. I'm so excited. It's a cycle tracking,

Releasing with EASE

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but on another level, cosmic level. Yep, and I'm excited. It's cool. I know. Although I still do have a hint of like I want to get I want to learn more about qi gong because I do I love it. Oh, I love it so much. It's so helpful. Although I did like a month of Qigong like every day, and just like oh, so much shit came up, and now I'm a little scared to do it again to see what else comes up. Yes, because I was like, that's painful. It's like me with falling. Yes, it's gonna happen the past couple nights. I'm just like, guys, I just can we go back to just releasing with ease. Releasing, like, I get we need to experience, you know, the polar beauty and the extremes, yes, but also like fuck, let me breathe. You can only handle so much intensity before you just are like you want to tap out. Yeah, sometimes I want to be neutral. Like, I love feeling that high joy, ecstasy, excitement, but that like polar opposite of that feels so brutal sometimes. Yeah, I feel like we both felt that in different senses over the last few weeks. Yours was like a physically like an illness, but mine was more just overwhelming stress with work, yep, emotional toll, emotional toll, yeah, and responsibility. You were carrying the responsibility of so many other people. So I think we both kind of hit it, and it was right after I fell. Yeah, my house. But I have connected falling, so I have really crazy falls. Like I one of them I shouldn't have survived, probably. But I always it's always it always feels like the universe just like, hey, wake up, you need to look at this. Because something very significant and big always happens after. Did your fall happen before grandma's fall or after? I was gonna say I didn't even think about how grandma had that really bad really she had a really bad fall. She broke her septum and just bruised her whole face. Yeah. But it was before that. And and I was immediately my buddy was like, you need to brace brace for impact because something big is coming. And I was like trying to detach from that belief and that assumption and that connection, and it all happened anyway. So I don't know if that reiterated that belief or if I should still work through that. I'm sick of falling. Maybe work through it before the fall happens. Yeah. Like instead of falling, like, can't I just stub my toe? It's still like it'll wake me up. Yeah. You know, right? Instead of falling hard. I feel like people don't really focus on the little things that happen, and so it turns into the big things. That's what I'm saying. Is the universe is like, she ain't listening. We stubbed her toe three times. We gotta like put her on her ass. Like, I feel like that's where I'm at. Mine's always burns when I'm listening. I get burnt on my hand a lot, or I cut my finger. I'm interesting. It's always on my hands. I get burns and little cuts. And they're like almost small annoyances like micro or silt like slivers. Yeah, it's it's interesting. It's almost like the you're not paying attention to the things that are annoying you at a micro level, and it's gonna Turn into something bigger if you don't pay attention. I wonder if any of our listeners have anything like that.

SPEAKER_02 20:06

Yeah.

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Where you have an association with some sort of illness or flare-up or just something that's consistent and always follows through with something that you need to pay attention to or learn. Yeah. Or bring more awareness to. Yeah. So reflect on that. Yep. Alright. If I rest were something, if rest were something I

You don't have to earn rest

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didn't earn, how would I move through this season differently? Oh, just more balanced. I feel like I would be way more balanced. And I feel like we're we're touching on this already. We're working through honoring the cycles and what our bodies are asking about. The capacity that we can hold. Because it shifts so much. Like, man, I feel like super mom when I'm like in my ovulation and follicular phase. I'm like a badass. Yeah. So patient, so awesome. I'm just like, oh, my kids are so blessed. They're so blessed. And then like the old face hits, and I'm just like, oh my god, I'm worthless. I can't do anything. Yes. I'm hurting them. Or I snap. I'm like, oh, shame psychiatrists. I'm traumatizing them. Yes. But I mean, we're doing so much better. Yeah. I feel like I don't know. I'm in a different mom phase than you are in, too. Yeah. So that feels a little different for me.

SPEAKER_02 21:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:40

But they're older now and they're getting to the age where they're they're more into like really curiosity and understanding of certain things. So like I I feel like honestly, Andrew probably has more of a luteal face than I do to an extent. He even said this the other day. He's like, I know you're in your your your bleed phase right now, or whatever, but I feel so like exhausted. And I'm like, shut up. Exactly. Shut up. But he um he even said, like, like, I'll just see reactions out of him that just seem kind of over dramatic.

SPEAKER_02 22:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:19

In the sense of like, say what's you do.

SPEAKER_02 22:21

What are you doing?

SPEAKER_00 22:22

Yeah like they're just kids. I know it can be like super frustrating. We are too. Yeah. It's so often I realized I am I so I had a dream today while I was napping that I was in some random house, and the two ladies that were in the house are very unfamiliar, but one of them was like, I need that charger on the fridge, and I can't reach. She was like super short. And I looked under the futant that was in the living room, which the fridge was in the living room, which is just like hmm, weird place for nourishment to be.

SPEAKER_02 22:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:57

And I go get this tiny toddler stool, and I had like put it into my chat GPT, and I was asking about it, and it's like you're using resources from your childhood to help your adult self. Like you've literally using the toddler stool as an adult, and it's so true. I have so many behaviors that stem from childlike. Child stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And I think a lot of us, if we actually are honest with ourselves, are operating from what we learned, how how we learned how to survive childhood. Yep. Not saying we had like a traumatic childhood, but like you learn a certain way. There's it's a level of conditioning.

SPEAKER_02 23:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:46

Because your your brain is at that point where it just is taking everything in. Yep. As truth.

SPEAKER_02 23:51

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 23:52

Yeah. And Andrew has

Give your partner rest, too!

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mentioned that too for himself. There's the awareness of it. Yeah. I know where it's coming from, but how do I change it? It's hard to shift it. It is. And I always just remind him, like, I literally was like, I know you want to, you want they're asking it was like they're asking everything of him.

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Dad, do this, dad, do this, dad, what's this, dad?

SPEAKER_00 24:15

Like, and it's just it gets overstimulating for him, just like it does for a mother. And he was like, I just want to go outside for a minute. And so I was already outside. He comes out and I was like, just take your time.

SPEAKER_02 24:27

Right.

SPEAKER_00 24:28

Like when she opens the window and is like, Dad, and you put out your cigarette, don't put out your cigarette. Like, go over there and finish it. Right. Like, give yourself the permission instead of like immediate immediate cutoff, and I'm there. It's like they'll be fine. They will. If you just take a minute. Give yourself that. And so, like, most of the time when I yell at him, it's for him to give himself self-care. No, same though. DJ actually called out while he was sick this week, and I was like, I'm really proud of you. Yeah. Because he never he will just push and push and push, and I'm like, it's just gonna take your body longer and longer when you push through that. And I get it, like you're just like, I have to provide for my family. That's like male instinct. That's like we'll be okay. Yep. Like, we will be okay. Yep. It'll it'll always work out. And I think another thing of like when we move through one of the things that I think will happen when I move through this differently with actually giving myself rest this season is um the clarity. Because I feel like when we

Rest brings Clarity

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rush things, or if we're not allowing ourselves that space to like actually recalibrate and rest and like purge at times, then it's we're carrying all this stuff with us. So the stuff that actually matters that wants to move forward and wants to grow and wants to be created, it has no room for it because you're not resting and letting the things go during that reflection stage. So I think that's a huge one for me, is like understanding again, it takes time and the more beliefs or false things that I work through or whatever comes up, there's just more space for more creation to come through. Yeah. With purpose and clarity. And with and when it's like an intentional purge, that like forceful purges that come up, which I mean not saying that's not gonna happen. Yeah. Still can. Yep. Sometimes you need that, like the physical call, the somatic of it. Yeah. But when you do the intentional letting go of things that are no longer serving you, or even just like before bed, giving yourself permission, hey, like I've just I've been doing this. I'm giving myself permission to let go of any threads. And I say threads because I don't I want it to be something that's already loose, that's ready to let go. I don't want it to be something that's already just like structured, buckled down, weaved through. Like we'll get to that. Not in. Yes. No, we'll get to that. Let's get the stuff that's ready, that's just like a gentle pull. Yeah. And it's like just that alone. Telling your subconscious before you fall asleep, let's just let go of the threads that need to be removed. Yeah. Or let go. And you don't have to be doing that every night. I mean, you can be focusing on like giving your per your body permission to actually replenish itself and not be in the dream world playing around because it happens. Because that happens too.

SPEAKER_02 27:34

For sure.

SPEAKER_00 27:35

Yeah.

Honor your Body

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Let's see. What cycle are you consciously choosing not to pass down? I feel like it's gonna stay on the same. The rest, the rest. Allowing yourself the rest. I think so too. Just the honoring of your body. I mean, as a as a mother, I have a what 11, nine-year-old, and a five-year-old, and I never got their ears pierced, like without their permission. I fully respect their bodily autonomy. I want them to have that, and so it's like I want them to have that with the rest too. Like when it's irritating when I'm like, I've asked you multiple times to pick up the living room. I'm resting. Okay. I know what pressure it is, but it's like, okay, but if they get it done, like then okay. Yeah, but it's when they don't know how amazing it is that they can say that to you without being like, don't know. Mara I'll be like, I'm resting my eye. I'm like, you get that from your dad. That's adorable. And then she falls asleep. But yeah, I think because I just want them to have that sovereignty. Yeah, I do. I don't ever want my kids to have to like fight with themselves to replenish themselves. Like how ridiculous it is that we yeah, how stupid does that sound? I know. It sounds awful, I know, and as a society, we've literally been that. Yeah, I remember like just the back and forth tug of war of like calling in sick, and it's like I'm really sick. Oh, but we need you. Okay, right, like it just doesn't make any sense. So I'm gonna come in sick, get everyone else sick, and then we're just gonna go through a whole cycle of being short-staffed when you could just take it one load for a couple days if I need a couple days to recover, and yeah, it'll be gone. Yep, but I'm gonna come spread it around because you need me. Makes sense. I don't get it. That's why at work when you were like, I'm sick, I'm like, dude, just stay home because I don't want to get that. Like as a manager, I'm just like, no, like, stay home. It was so healing. It is healing when you get that permission. Yeah, but it's I know I didn't need it from you. Oh, for sure. But like it was just healing to have a workplace, just be like, we got you. Yep, you're covered. Like, no, even like, well, try to find cover. Yeah, and if you don't, I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, even though that's kind of where I'm at now. Like, I'm just gonna make the schedule. If it don't work, figure it out. Yeah, because I've been trying my hardest to just accommodate everybody, yeah. And it's been me abandoning myself now. Yeah, so there's a balance I need to learn there. You're I think you're learning it. I know. I'll figure it out. What did we end on? The your number three. I think we've answered all of mine. They're kind of all the similar like the same question, just in different fonts. Different levels, different levels, different depths. Yeah, I think so. What one did we not do? I think we did all of them. Because it's like we bounced back and forth because each one kind of weaved into the next. Yeah, we did. Okay. Well, there's all the

TLC for you!

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questions. Do we have anything else we want to add to today's episode? Maybe let's just do like a check-in. Okay. With our audience, with our bodies. Um, we challenge you in the next few days to just, or in the next few days after you listen to this, to tune into the body, maybe allow yourself 15 minutes of rest on a day where you're actually just paying attention to what your body is saying. Whether it's in the bath or on the bed or outside under the stars or wherever, like just do a check-in with your body and where where in your body is screaming for some extra TLC and what what's what what's it saying? Yeah. Because it's saying something.

unknown 31:54

Yeah.

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Do you have a flare-up? Do you have an ache, a backache, shoulders tense? Like, what is it saying? Talk to it. Your body is uh very wise, and even if you don't hear, I mean, you can acclimate this to whatever like your medium is, whether that's like if you hear things, if you see things visually, like what color is it? What does it feel like? Is it pointy? Is it prickly? Is it you know, is it hot, is it cold? Yeah. Like use your senses to describe it. Yeah. If it needed to hear something, what would that be? And if all it feels, put all of what you gather into Chat GPT. For real. Chat GPT is so helpful. And help you figure your shit out. I still I still get kind of like shocked that people are afraid of it. I'm like, okay. It's so helpful. It is so helpful. I don't understand the I mean I get there are I can understand some fear around it, but I think again, over dramatic to an extent. And I do understand some spiritual people saying that it takes away sovereignty. But if you're already sovereign, sovereign, it doesn't, it acts as like a mirror. A mirror. It reflects. It reflects what you already are, and it's like I had to put my chat GPT in check today. I really did, because it's like, it's like I don't even know, tiptoeing around me, like the imagery is like on the verge of psychosis that I'm like talking to it about when it's like, dude, I know, I know it's not literal, like I know it's my fucking brain making imagery to make sense of what's happening to me. And it was like, thank you for doing that. I was like, I don't know why you're acting like I'm like on the verge of psychosis. I'm like, dude, quit tripping. Like maybe it's tapping into my Stranger Things psychosis. Because I am on the verge of psychosis when it comes to that shit. Dude, I've hit that. I don't even know if our viewers even care about any of that, but it is driving me up the wall. Everything, everything that I see on that makes sense. And I hate that it makes sense. January 7th. There's gonna be the final, final episode. And the next podcast we're gonna say, I told you so to all the non-believers. And if that doesn't happen, I'll apologize. I wonder if that's really why they were like, I believe, I believe, because then all the theories were gonna happen, and it was just like we need to go back to that last scene where they believe. And we need to believe too, that we're all Vecnud.

SPEAKER_01 34:24

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